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		<title>In other news… the Lib Dems and Alan Turing, Robbie Williams, Todmorden, the royal yacht, perjury and Cornish council tax</title>
		<link>http://stephentall.org/2012/02/05/in-other-news-the-lib-dems-and-alan-turing-robbie-williams-todmorden-the-royal-yacht-perjury-and-cornish-council-tax/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here’s a round-up of stories we haven’t had time to cover on the site this past week… John Leech tables Commons motion calling for Alan Turing pardon (BBC) Manchester Withington&#8217;s John Leech submitted the Early Day Motion and said people should sign an online petition protesting against Turing&#8217;s conviction. The gay computer pioneer was convicted [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Here’s a round-up of stories we haven’t had time to cover on the site this past week…</em></p>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-16833621">John Leech tables Commons motion calling for Alan Turing pardon</a> </strong>(BBC)</li>
<blockquote><p>Manchester Withington&#8217;s John Leech submitted the Early Day Motion and said people should sign an online petition protesting against Turing&#8217;s conviction. The gay computer pioneer was convicted for gross indecency in 1952, when homosexual acts were illegal in the UK. Mr Leech said his persecution &#8220;by the state for being gay is a scandal that shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to stand&#8221;. Alan Turing worked as part of the team which cracked the Enigma code at Bletchley Park in World War II and directed the computing laboratory at the University of Manchester, where he helped to form the basis for the field of artificial intelligence.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/23526">You can sign the e-petition here</a>;<br />
<a href="http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2010-12/2660">You can see the Early Day Motion here</a>.</p>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2012/02/04/robbie-williams-criticised-for-launching-poker-website-115875-23734711/#ixzz1lSAzQDx0">Lib Dem MP Tessa Munt takes on Robbie Williams</a> (Mirror)</strong> </li>
<blockquote><p>Anti-gambling campaigners have blasted Robbie Williams for starting a poker site. The Robbie Williams Poker community, to be launched online this year, says the main focus is “fun” but some of the games cost money. Lib Dem MP Tessa Munt said the Take That singer, 37, should know all about addiction as he was once dependent on prescription drugs. She added: “I’m outraged by this. It directly targets his fans, including children. The money he makes should go to addiction charities.”</p></blockquote>
<li> <a href="http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/9506561.Todmorden_MEP_comes_from_family_of_Liberals/">Newest Lib Dem MEP &#8216;member of a political dynasty in Todmorden&#8217;</a> (Lancashire Telegraph) </li>
<blockquote><p>Health researcher Rebecca Taylor, who grew up in the town, has been installed as Euro MP for Yorkshire and the Humber. &#8230; Her father Dr Michael Taylor, who still lives in Owlers Walk, Todmorden, is a former Todmorden and Calderdale councillor and her mother Elisabeth Wilson is an ex-county councillor and her grandparents are also committed Liberals. She said: “It is a great privilege and honour to serve the people of Yorkshire and the Humber in Europe as a Liberal Democrat MEP. It is why I stood for selection in 2007 and my commitment to the region has not changed.”</p></blockquote>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.essexcountystandard.co.uk/news/9509834.___Are_you_serious_____MP_Sir_Bob_Russell_asks_constituent/">Straight-shooting Sir Bob Russell asks constituent, ‘Are you serious?’</a></strong> (Essex County Standard) </li>
<blockquote><p>Sir Bob was unrepentant. He said: “If people write seeking my views, I give my views. If he wants to think it’s insulting, that’s his point of view.”</p></blockquote>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/elections-2010/elections-2010-news/2012/02/02/former-liverpool-council-leader-warren-bradley-facing-perjury-charge-100252-30249824/">Warren Bradley (ex-Lib Dem, ex-Liverpool city council leader) charged with perjury</a></strong> (Liverpool Echo) </li>
<blockquote><p>Former Liverpool council leader Warren Bradley was today facing a perjury charge after a police inquiry into electoral fraud allegations. &#8230; At the time Cllr Bradley was leader of the Lib Dem group but resigned the day the allegations were made public. He was then suspended from the Lib Dems and he is currently facing being banned from the party. At the time he said: “I totally deny this allegation and am seeking legal advice to that end.”</p></blockquote>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Truro-Councillor-Did-Pay-Council-Tax/story-15098189-detail/story.html">Four Lib Dem councillors in Cornwall fail to pay council tax</a></strong> (ThisIsCornwall) </li>
<blockquote><p>Cornwall Council said 17 councillors paid late but the authority would not comment on individual cases, arguing it was a personal matter. The Government&#8217;s Information Commissioner is considering an appeal against the refusal to identify the members.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>* Stephen Tall is Co-Editor of  <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/">Liberal Democrat Voice</a>, and also writes at his own site, <a href="http://stephentall.org/">The Collected Stephen Tall</a>.</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>In other news… the Lib Dems and Alan Turing, Robbie Williams, Todmorden, the royal yacht, perjury and Cornish council tax</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here’s a round-up of stories we haven’t had time to cover on the site this past week… John Leech tables Commons motion calling for Alan Turing pardon (BBC) Manchester Withington&#8217;s John Leech submitted the Early Day Motion and said people should sign an online petition protesting against Turing&#8217;s conviction. The gay computer pioneer was convicted [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Here’s a round-up of stories we haven’t had time to cover on the site this past week…</em></p>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-16833621">John Leech tables Commons motion calling for Alan Turing pardon</a> </strong>(BBC)</li>
<blockquote><p>Manchester Withington&#8217;s John Leech submitted the Early Day Motion and said people should sign an online petition protesting against Turing&#8217;s conviction. The gay computer pioneer was convicted for gross indecency in 1952, when homosexual acts were illegal in the UK. Mr Leech said his persecution &#8220;by the state for being gay is a scandal that shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to stand&#8221;. Alan Turing worked as part of the team which cracked the Enigma code at Bletchley Park in World War II and directed the computing laboratory at the University of Manchester, where he helped to form the basis for the field of artificial intelligence.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/23526">You can sign the e-petition here</a>;<br />
<a href="http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2010-12/2660">You can see the Early Day Motion here</a>.</p>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2012/02/04/robbie-williams-criticised-for-launching-poker-website-115875-23734711/#ixzz1lSAzQDx0">Lib Dem MP Tessa Munt takes on Robbie Williams</a> (Mirror)</strong> </li>
<blockquote><p>Anti-gambling campaigners have blasted Robbie Williams for starting a poker site. The Robbie Williams Poker community, to be launched online this year, says the main focus is “fun” but some of the games cost money. Lib Dem MP Tessa Munt said the Take That singer, 37, should know all about addiction as he was once dependent on prescription drugs. She added: “I’m outraged by this. It directly targets his fans, including children. The money he makes should go to addiction charities.”</p></blockquote>
<li> <a href="http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/9506561.Todmorden_MEP_comes_from_family_of_Liberals/">Newest Lib Dem MEP &#8216;member of a political dynasty in Todmorden&#8217;</a> (Lancashire Telegraph) </li>
<blockquote><p>Health researcher Rebecca Taylor, who grew up in the town, has been installed as Euro MP for Yorkshire and the Humber. &#8230; Her father Dr Michael Taylor, who still lives in Owlers Walk, Todmorden, is a former Todmorden and Calderdale councillor and her mother Elisabeth Wilson is an ex-county councillor and her grandparents are also committed Liberals. She said: “It is a great privilege and honour to serve the people of Yorkshire and the Humber in Europe as a Liberal Democrat MEP. It is why I stood for selection in 2007 and my commitment to the region has not changed.”</p></blockquote>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.essexcountystandard.co.uk/news/9509834.___Are_you_serious_____MP_Sir_Bob_Russell_asks_constituent/">Straight-shooting Sir Bob Russell asks constituent, ‘Are you serious?’</a></strong> (Essex County Standard) </li>
<blockquote><p>Sir Bob was unrepentant. He said: “If people write seeking my views, I give my views. If he wants to think it’s insulting, that’s his point of view.”</p></blockquote>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/elections-2010/elections-2010-news/2012/02/02/former-liverpool-council-leader-warren-bradley-facing-perjury-charge-100252-30249824/">Warren Bradley (ex-Lib Dem, ex-Liverpool city council leader) charged with perjury</a></strong> (Liverpool Echo) </li>
<blockquote><p>Former Liverpool council leader Warren Bradley was today facing a perjury charge after a police inquiry into electoral fraud allegations. &#8230; At the time Cllr Bradley was leader of the Lib Dem group but resigned the day the allegations were made public. He was then suspended from the Lib Dems and he is currently facing being banned from the party. At the time he said: “I totally deny this allegation and am seeking legal advice to that end.”</p></blockquote>
<li> <strong><a href="http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Truro-Councillor-Did-Pay-Council-Tax/story-15098189-detail/story.html">Four Lib Dem councillors in Cornwall fail to pay council tax</a></strong> (ThisIsCornwall) </li>
<blockquote><p>Cornwall Council said 17 councillors paid late but the authority would not comment on individual cases, arguing it was a personal matter. The Government&#8217;s Information Commissioner is considering an appeal against the refusal to identify the members.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>* Stephen Tall is Co-Editor of  <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/">Liberal Democrat Voice</a>, and also writes at his own site, <a href="http://stephentall.org/">The Collected Stephen Tall</a>.</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>LDV Caption Competition: Ed Davey “I’ve got Energy” Edition</title>
		<link>http://stephentall.org/2012/02/04/ldv-caption-competition-ed-davey-ive-got-energy-edition/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There’s no prize at stake – just the opportunity to prove you’re wittier than any other LDV reader… (Picture from The Guardian.) Here&#8217;s Nick Clegg welcoming new energy and climate change secretary Ed Davey to the cabinet &#8212; what do you think might be being said or thought by or about them? And the winner [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>There’s no prize at stake – just the opportunity to prove you’re wittier than any other LDV reader…</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Ed-Davey-nick-clegg.jpg"><img src="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Ed-Davey-nick-clegg.jpg" alt="" title="Ed-Davey-nick-clegg" width="460" height="276" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-26956" /></a><br />
(<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/feb/03/chris-huhne-replacement-ed-davey-clegg">Picture from The Guardian</a>.)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Nick Clegg welcoming new energy and climate change secretary Ed Davey to the cabinet &#8212; what do you think might be being said or thought by or about them?</p>
<h3>And the winner of our last caption comp is…</h3>
<p>Some fantastic entries for our most recent caption competition, <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-caption-competition-eds-balls-and-miliband-the-early-years-edition-26729.html">Eds Balls and Miliband “The Early Years” Edition</a>. <span id="more-26955"></span></p>
<p>The winner, according to The Voice’s judging panel of one, was <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-caption-competition-eds-balls-and-miliband-the-early-years-edition-26729.html#comment-195166">this one</a> by Cheltenham robin, with a highly commended offerings by LondonLiberal <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-caption-competition-eds-balls-and-miliband-the-early-years-edition-26729.html#comment-195091">here</a> and Toby MacDonnell <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-caption-competition-eds-balls-and-miliband-the-early-years-edition-26729.html#comment-194968">here</a>.</p>
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<p><em>* Stephen Tall is Co-Editor of  <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/">Liberal Democrat Voice</a>, and also writes at his own site, <a href="http://stephentall.org/">The Collected Stephen Tall</a>.</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>EXCLUSIVE: 72% of Lib Dem members backed reshuffle return for David Laws. (But it wasn’t to be.)</title>
		<link>http://stephentall.org/2012/02/04/exclusive-72-of-lib-dem-members-backed-reshuffle-return-for-david-laws-but-it-wasnt-to-be/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Earlier this week, LibDemVoice started asking party members signed up to our discussion forum a range of questions &#8212; the survey is still live, but one of the questions is already a little previous so we&#8217;re reporting it early&#8230; We asked: Would you support or oppose David Laws making a return to government at the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Earlier this week, <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-ldv-members-survey-now-live-your-views-on-benefits-cap-tax-europe-scottish-independence-and-life-in-government-26891.html">LibDemVoice started asking party members</a> signed up to our <a href="http://forum.libdemvoice.org/">discussion forum</a> a range of questions &#8212; the survey is still live, but one of the questions is already a little previous so we&#8217;re reporting it early&#8230;</em></p>
<p><strong>We asked: Would you support or oppose David Laws making a return to government at the next reshuffle?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li> Yes &#8211; to a cabinet post 58% </li>
<li> Yes &#8211; but only to a non-cabinet post in government 14%</li>
<li> No &#8211; he should not return to the government at the next reshuffle 21%</li>
<li> Don’t know / No opinion 7%</li>
</ul>
<p>In total, then, 72% of Lib Dem members in our sample wanted to see David Laws return to a ministerial post in the Coalition government, with most wanting to see him return to the cabinet 18 months after he was forced to resign. <span id="more-26953"></span>However, a significant minority, 21%, opposed his return, at least at the &#8216;next&#8217; reshuffle (as it then was). You can read a sample of the comments received from members below.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/david-laws.jpg"><img src="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/david-laws-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="david laws" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-26954" /></a>Nick Clegg was asked directly about a return for David Laws in <a href="http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/45357/nick_clegg_rowing_through_the_storms.html">Paul Waugh&#8217;s excellent interview for The House magazine</a> &#8212; here&#8217;s how he replied:</p>
<blockquote><p>Speaking of possible ministerial reshuffles, would he bring back David Laws at non-cabinet level if needed? “I’m not wildly hierarchical and David certainly isn’t. It’s one of the many things that I like so much about David, he’s a sort of an unusual combination of being a politician but actually quite a modest character, which you don’t find very often in politics. David is not after status. What I would like to see David do is to be close to the centre of power in one shape or form with, ideally, quite a broad view of government policy, because I think he’s got an ability to see the connections between policies – which is quite unusual.”</p></blockquote>
<p>So though David may not have returned officially to the heart of government in Friday&#8217;s reshuffle, we can be pretty sure unofficially he&#8217;ll be there or thereabouts regardless.</p>
<p>Those are Nick&#8217;s thoughts; here are some of our party members&#8217;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Running the country well is more important than some pretty trivial personal tomfoolery. If he&#8217;s the right person for the job, give him the job.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>David Laws is an exceptionally capable individual that should be central to our government and its achievements.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>No objection to him being in government per se, I&#8217;d just rather we kept some of our best people available to be Lib Dems rather than government spokespeople.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>A very gifted man, but his ethics and integrity were found to be incompatible with his position.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>He does not represent the kind of liberalism I generally support, but he is probably our most intelligent and competent MP and deserves a place at the Cabinet table.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Good man, but I&#8217;d like someone less right-wing in the cabinet.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>There is no doubt that David is immensely talented and would make a valuable contribution to government. But I would prefer that he remains outside of the government, supporting the Lib Dems in government and looking to the future and the 2015 election.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>He is valuable and, writing as an older gay person, I know the fear that some folk have of being &#8220;out&#8221; &#8211; I had this once. He has been punished enough.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>His resignation shouldn&#8217;t have happened, but I see why he did it. Bring him back.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>But much as I would love to see David back in the Cabinet, can we PLEASE have a woman LD Cabinet minister first!!!</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>We can&#8217;t afford to waste talent like his although I&#8217;m sure he is playing a major role behind he scenes</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>David Laws is a clever man who behaved stupidly. He&#8217;s paid the price. He&#8217;d be an asset in Government &#8211; provided he&#8217;s not turned Tory-Lite.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Should not return to government until he has been re-elected as an MP.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>He&#8217;s a talented man but his re-appointment would play badly when the public still regards most politicians as corrupt.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>He&#8217;s the brightest and the best MP we have. Bring him back!</p></blockquote>
<li><em>Over 1,200 Lib Dem paid-up party members are registered with LibDemVoice.org. Some 436 responded to the latest survey between 31st January and 3rd February.</em></li>
<li><em>Please note: we make no claims that the survey is fully representative of the Lib Dem membership as a whole. However, LibDemVoice.org’s surveys are the largest independent samples of the views of Lib Dem members across the country, and have in the past accurately predicted the winners of the contest for Party President, and the result of the conference decision to approve the Coalition agreement.</em></li>
<li><em>The full archive of our members’ surveys can be viewed at <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/category/ldv-members-poll">www.libdemvoice.org/category/ldv-members-poll</a></em></li>
<p><em>* Stephen Tall is Co-Editor of  <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/">Liberal Democrat Voice</a>, and also writes at his own site, <a href="http://stephentall.org/">The Collected Stephen Tall</a>.</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>How Lib Dem members rated Chris Huhne and Ed Davey before the reshuffle</title>
		<link>http://stephentall.org/2012/02/04/how-lib-dem-members-rated-chris-huhne-and-ed-davey-before-the-reshuffle/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[LibDemVoice is currently conducting one of our regular surveys of party members to find out views on a range of issues. One of the questions we always ask is how satisfied Lib Dems are with key figures in the party. Though the survey is still open, a couple are now out-of-date &#8212; specifically, what members&#8217; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LibDemVoice is <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/category/ldv-members-poll">currently conducting one of our regular surveys</a> of party members to find out views on a range of issues. One of the questions we always ask is how satisfied Lib Dems are with key figures in the party. Though the survey is still open, a couple are now out-of-date &#8212; specifically, what members&#8217; opinions were of Chris Huhne and Ed Davey in the jobs they occupied until Friday. So here are their results&#8230;</p>
<h3>Chris Huhne:</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/chris_huhne.jpg"><img src="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/chris_huhne-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="chris_huhne" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-26951" /></a><strong>How would you rate the performances of Chris Huhne, Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change?</strong></p>
<ul>
Very satisfied 15%<br />
Satisfied 40%<br />
<em>Total satisfied = 65%</em><br />
Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied 17%<br />
Dissatisfied 21%<br />
Very dissatisfied 7%<br />
<em>Total dissatisfied = 28%</em><br />
<strong>Net satisfaction = +27%</strong>
</ul>
<p>In Chris&#8217;s final rating by party members &#8212; at least for now &#8212; he scored a net satisfaction rating of +27%. In a way, not bad, but it&#8217;s a big drop from Chris&#8217;s best ratings &#8212; <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/exclusive-how-party-members-rate-the-performances-of-leading-lib-dems-2-22060.html">back in November 2010</a>, he was the top-rated Lib Dem government minister, with a score of +68% (though note we were then rating &#8216;effectiveness&#8217; rather than &#8216;satisfaction&#8217;, a subtly different question). Here&#8217;s how Chris&#8217;s ratings have fared while in government:</p>
<ul>
July 2010: +51%<br />
August 2010: +59%<br />
November 2010: +68%<br />
January 2011: +65%<br />
April 2011: +63%<br />
September 2011: +53%<br />
December 2011: +42%
</ul>
<p>The drip-drip of bad publicity over the past few months relating to the charges that have now been laid appear to have dented Chris&#8217;s popularity among party members &#8212; notwithstanding <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/so-what-did-chris-huhne-achieve-in-cancun-22362.html">his lauded performance at the Cancun climate change summit in December</a>.</p>
<h3>Ed Davey:</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ed-davey.png"><img src="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ed-davey-150x150.png" alt="" title="ed davey" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-26952" /></a><strong>How would you rate the performances of Edward Davey, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills?</strong></p>
<ul>
Very satisfied 16%<br />
Satisfied 35%<br />
<em>Total satisfied = 51%</em><br />
Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied 39%<br />
Dissatisfied 8%<br />
Very dissatisfied 2%<br />
<em>Total dissatisfied = 10%</em><br />
<strong>Net satisfaction = +41%</strong>
</ul>
<p>Ed finishes his time as Lib Dem No. 2 at Vince&#8217;s BIS empire with very positive ratings, testament to how he&#8217;s pushed through Lib Dem policy on a range of issues while <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/ed-davey-someone-getting-the-messaging-right-26010.html">offering a coherent story of liberalism in action</a>. Here&#8217;s how his positive ratings have grown over the last 18 months of Coalition, from a relatively poor start, a legacy of what was judged to be a mixed performance as the party&#8217;s shadow foreign affairs spokesman before the election:</p>
<ul>
July 2010: +9%<br />
August 2010: +11%<br />
November 2010: +23%<br />
January 2011: +24%<br />
April 2011: +30%<br />
September 2011: +27%<br />
December 2011: +39%
</ul>
<p>Ed will start the new role with a lot of goodwill behind him (though more than a few Lib Dems are unhappy that Nick Clegg didn&#8217;t take this enforced opportunity to create the first female Lib Dem cabinet minister), but will be very well aware he has big shoes to fill. If he makes a real success of the role, though, he may find journalists starting to ask him if he&#8217;d like to be party leader one day.</p>
<li><em>Over 1,200 Lib Dem paid-up party members are registered with LibDemVoice.org. Some 436 responded to the latest survey between 31st January and 3rd February.</em></li>
<li><em>Please note: we make no claims that the survey is fully representative of the Lib Dem membership as a whole. However, LibDemVoice.org’s surveys are the largest independent samples of the views of Lib Dem members across the country, and have in the past accurately predicted the winners of the contest for Party President, and the result of the conference decision to approve the Coalition agreement.</em></li>
<li><em>The full archive of our members’ surveys can be viewed at <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/category/ldv-members-poll">www.libdemvoice.org/category/ldv-members-poll</a></em></li>
<p><em>* Stephen Tall is Co-Editor of  <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/">Liberal Democrat Voice</a>, and also writes at his own site, <a href="http://stephentall.org/">The Collected Stephen Tall</a>.</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>What I said to Channel 4 News about Chris Huhne</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was interviewed today by Sonia Rathwell for Channel 4 News for a profile of now-former Lib Dem cabinet minister Chris Huhne. Here&#8217;s some of what I said: It could be said that the former secretary of state for energy and climate change has a rather chilly public persona &#8211; but despite something of a [...]]]></description>
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<p>I was interviewed today by <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/SoniaRothwell">Sonia Rathwell</a> for Channel 4 News for a profile of now-former Lib Dem cabinet minister Chris Huhne. Here&#8217;s some of what I said:</p>
<blockquote><p>It could be said that the former secretary of state for energy and climate change has a rather chilly public persona &#8211; but despite something of a &#8220;grey man&#8221; image, Chris Huhne has a warm, devoted fanbase according to Stephen Tall, the editor of the Lib Dem activists&#8217; newspaper, Lib Dem Voice. &#8230; &#8220;After the leadership battle, he could have gone away and sulked but he didn&#8217;t, he backed Nick Clegg all the way and helped prep Nick for the TV debates. He was also one of four Lib Dems involved in the coalition negotiations,&#8221; he said. And Mr Huhne remained a key player in the coalition despite occasional and vocal disagreements with the Tories. &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s the sort of person who has &#8216;sharp elbows&#8217;, which is unusual in the Lib Dems &#8211; he&#8217;s not afraid to stand up and say what he thinks, which I think is rather a candid way of doing things in contrast with briefing against people behind their backs,&#8221; he said. &#8230; Mr Tall told Channel 4 News: &#8220;He&#8217;s never been able to electrify the Lib Dem conference and Chris can&#8217;t do jokes or the &#8216;light and shade&#8217; like Nick Clegg can. He&#8217;s not afraid to take prisoners &#8211; he&#8217;ll say it as he sees it, which has made him some enemies.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for what the MP for Eastleigh may do in future, Stephen Tall said he could face yet more battles, something he believes Mr Huhne is likely to relish. &#8220;I think he&#8217;ll want to continue being active through journalism and interventions on those issues he cares about &#8211; the economy and environment in particular. He also faces boundary changes in his Eastleigh constituency, so will want and need to spend some time nursing his seat if he wants to remain in frontline politics, especially after the dark cloud that&#8217;s been hovering over him the last few months.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/chris-huhne-the-lib-dem-with-sharp-elbows">You can read the full article at the Channel 4 News website here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Chris Huhne: the straight talking fighter faces his biggest battle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was in May 2011 that the allegation first surfaced that, eight years previously, Chris Huhne had allegedly asked his then wife Vicky Pryce to take the rap for speeding points that would have seen the aspirant Lib Dem MP for Eastleigh lose his licence. It&#8217;s a charge Chris has strenuously denied ever since, always [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was in May 2011 that the allegation first surfaced that, eight years previously, Chris Huhne had allegedly asked his then wife Vicky Pryce to take the rap for speeding points that would have seen the aspirant Lib Dem MP for Eastleigh lose his licence. It&#8217;s a charge Chris has strenuously denied ever since, always saying he welcomes the police investigation as a chance to clear his name. When asked whether he would resign, he has previously only ever had to answer hypothetically, as here when questioned by Andrew Neil:</p>
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(<a href="http://youtu.be/kjZIKu4HAlU">Available on YouTube here</a>.)<br />
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But now reality has struck. Though Chris was able to retain his cabinet post while the police investigated the claims (as Tim Farron rather neatly put it, &#8216;Tony Blair remained prime minister while he was investigated, I imagine Chris Huhne can just about cope with being energy secretary&#8217;) it was always clear that in the event of formal charges being laid his tenure as secretary of state for energy and climate change would be terminated. Nick Clegg made clear his own view <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberaldemocrats/9031735/Nick-Clegg-Chris-Huhne-speeding-charge-would-be-very-serious-issue.html">on BBC1 last Sunday</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Of course, that is a very serious issue if that were to arise. We as a Government want the highest standards of probity to be in place in everything that is done by Cabinet members.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Nick and Chris contested the leadership of the party following Ming Campbell&#8217;s resignation in 2007. Despite a rather bruising campaign &#8212; probably best-remembered for the &#8216;Calamity Clegg&#8217; jibe made by one of Chris&#8217;s team &#8212; the two later formed en effective working relationship, with Chris key member of the Lib Dem negotiating team which produced the Coalition programme with substantial chunks of the party&#8217;s election manifesto incorporated. It was no coincidence that one of the most detailed policy areas was the environment, a long-term passion of Chris&#8217;s, which saw him identified as being on the social liberal / centre-left of the party; yet on the economy, he was a Lib Dem fiscal hawk, trenchant in his support for deficit reduction.</p>
<p>Never one to avoid a fight, there was frequent friction between Chris and his Conservative cabinet colleagues. For example, he controversially attacked Tory chairman Baroness Warsi during the AV referendum for mounting an &#8220;increasingly Goebbels-like campaign&#8221;, spoke out in cabinet against the Tory tactics of personally targeting Nick Clegg (much to its co-author George Osborne&#8217;s annoyance), and took David Cameron to task for his &#8216;veto&#8217; in December&#8217;s European summit. For some this smacked of betrayal. Personally I admired Chris&#8217;s willingness to say what he thought without resorting to the more common Westminster practices of unattributable briefings. Not that he lacks sharp elbows when they&#8217;re needed, a rare trait in Lib Dems which will be missed by (most of) his colleagues.</p>
<p>Chris will soon face the charges that have dogged him for so long; the rest of his political career will now depend on whether he can disprove them.</p>
<p>There will be few major implications for the Coalition of Chris&#8217;s resignation. For all the media excitement today, Cameron and Clegg have had plenty of time to prepare for today&#8217;s reshuffle. There may be bigger implications for the Coalition&#8217;s environment policies &#8212; Chris was a big hitter who achieved a huge amount in a short period of time: will his successor be able to continue Chris&#8217;s assertive work? An important first decision will be whether to retain Chris&#8217;s influential and knowledgeable special advisors, Duncan Brack and Joel Kenrick (a reminder that resignations have a human impact that extends well beyond the minister alone). Both were drafted in by Chris on his appointment to the climate change and energy post; it&#8217;s to be hoped they are allowed to continue in their roles.</p>
<p><em>* Stephen Tall is Co-Editor of  <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/">Liberal Democrat Voice</a>, and also writes at his own site, <a href="http://stephentall.org/">The Collected Stephen Tall</a>.</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<description><![CDATA[@travelling_wolf All fair points (in my post) &#8211; more impressed by efficiency of top-qual state ed for £5k pa. in reply to travelling_wolf # From me last night &#62; &#039;The day the Coalition broke. Literally.&#039; http://t.co/LfQYgYRS # @omaromalleykhan Hmm, article assumes poorest don&#039;t want to (or can&#039;t) work. True for some. But high marg tax [...]]]></description>
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<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/travelling_wolf" class="aktt_username">travelling_wolf</a> All fair points (in my post) &#8211; more impressed by efficiency of top-qual state ed for £5k pa. <a href="http://twitter.com/travelling_wolf/statuses/162818359325499392" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to travelling_wolf</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/162824131098853376" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>From me last night &gt; &#039;The day the Coalition broke. Literally.&#039; <a href="http://t.co/LfQYgYRS" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/LfQYgYRS</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/162825513130405888" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/omaromalleykhan" class="aktt_username">omaromalleykhan</a> Hmm, article assumes poorest don&#039;t want to (or can&#039;t) work. True for some. But high marg tax major disincentive for many&#8230; <a href="http://twitter.com/omaromalleykhan/statuses/162829696772489216" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to omaromalleykhan</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/162831718070489088" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/omaromalleykhan" class="aktt_username">omaromalleykhan</a> Benefits most efficient form of handout, least effective method of empowerment. So depends if u want s-t or l-term impact. <a href="http://twitter.com/omaromalleykhan/statuses/162829696772489216" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to omaromalleykhan</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/162832218920718336" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/mjturner1975" class="aktt_username">mjturner1975</a> Thx for the figs. So as expected:high FSM % schools have higher spend per pupil but lower results, yes? <a href="http://twitter.com/mjturner1975/statuses/162833379576918016" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to mjturner1975</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/162834549653512192" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Okay, so the new work telly is so *totally* for business purposes <a href="http://t.co/lVgYnAVL" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/lVgYnAVL</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/162874013977280513" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>I&#039;m planning to attend, 2nd Feb at RSA: &quot;The End of Satisfactory Schools&quot; <a href="http://t.co/otrjp8vU" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/otrjp8vU</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/162901608672411649" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Hmmm, seems like the @<a href="http://twitter.com/X90coach" class="aktt_username">X90coach</a> has decided to take Friday night off. 40 minutes at cold bus stop. Yay. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23deepsarcasm" class="aktt_hashtag">deepsarcasm</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/162993627700801536" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Impressive! » Australian Open ballboy&#039;s catch &#039;worthy of Ricky Ponting&#039; &#8211; video <a href="http://t.co/rwRF7q65" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/rwRF7q65</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163199338678456321" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/AndyCavster" class="aktt_username">AndyCavster</a> Eclectic. Ish. <a href="http://twitter.com/AndyCavster/statuses/163333751961686017" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to AndyCavster</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163334693956231168" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Surprise surprise, I agree with this analysis &gt;&gt; Andrew Grice: Clegg can reap rewards from his canny tax plans <a href="http://t.co/2Gy2EbDj" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/2Gy2EbDj</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163351932046553088" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/CllrDaisyBenson" class="aktt_username">CllrDaisyBenson</a> Well, I don&#039;t always agree with him but on this occasion <img src='http://stephentall.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://twitter.com/CllrDaisyBenson/statuses/163352116423954432" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to CllrDaisyBenson</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163352853635801089" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>The wonderfully named (he&#039;s from Yorkshire) Len Tingle&#039;s view &gt; &#039;The Mr and Mrs team step down in Yorkshire MEP row&#039; <a href="http://t.co/nDBGxf5F" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/nDBGxf5F</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163353726227202050" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/sunny_hundal" class="aktt_username">sunny_hundal</a> @MattChorley  I thought all the parties agreed on the deficit now <img src='http://stephentall.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/statuses/163370099829514240" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to sunny_hundal</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163371211718537217" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/MattChorley" class="aktt_username">MattChorley</a> Less about it being hard to govern, more about need to differentiate: to appear both Tory MPs &amp; Lib Dem (ex-)voters. <a href="http://twitter.com/MattChorley/statuses/163371687352610816" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to MattChorley</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163372584988180481" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/MattChorley" class="aktt_username">MattChorley</a> True for NHS reforms tho pace of other legislation not so bad. Until Lords&#039; reform, that is <img src='http://stephentall.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://twitter.com/MattChorley/statuses/163373009015537664" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to MattChorley</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163373725914382336" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/sunny_hundal" class="aktt_username">sunny_hundal</a> @mattchorley  Actually, Sunny, none of parties had credible def reductn plan pre-electn. All waiting til after to get real. <a href="http://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/statuses/163377068019679232" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to sunny_hundal</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163384589967044608" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Confession: was over-hasty in dissing Call the Midwife. Script still ropy, but acting is great. And addition of Miranda is genius. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163406557554544640" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Ahh, loving Borgen. It&#039;s no West Wing (nothing ever will be), but it&#039;s catnip to sad politicos sat at home on Sat nights. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23thatwouldbemethen" class="aktt_hashtag">thatwouldbemethen</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163407182652637184" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Best of luck! » RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/timfarron" class="aktt_username">timfarron</a> We&#039;re up at Kendal castle sleeping rough to raise funds to tackle housing need and homeless. Its minus 2&#8230; <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163407397950468096" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>*envious* RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/richardmorrisuk" class="aktt_username">richardmorrisuk</a> Joy joy joy. Apparently they are already on series 3 of Borgen in Denmark <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163407643564711936" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wd be good move » RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/TimMontgomerie" class="aktt_username">TimMontgomerie</a> Darling, Goldie and Kennedy tipped by @<a href="http://twitter.com/DavidTorrance" class="aktt_username">DavidTorrance</a> to lead defence of Union <a href="http://t.co/WFSTEP5U" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/WFSTEP5U</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163550052135079937" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>From me last night &gt; Cam’s Euro U-turn – this is what happens when you fail to negotiate <a href="http://t.co/ZECJMzCH" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/ZECJMzCH</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163558169442914304" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/eleanorlondon" class="aktt_username">eleanorlondon</a> Sounds like yr having fun &#8211; score&#039;s 1 set &#8211; love to Nadal <img src='http://stephentall.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://twitter.com/eleanorlondon/statuses/163564771793313792" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to eleanorlondon</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163565112312086530" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/KP_LD" class="aktt_username">KP_LD</a> The wrath of grapes? <a href="http://twitter.com/KP_LD/statuses/163564962080497665" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to KP_LD</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163565295255027712" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/eleanorlondon" class="aktt_username">eleanorlondon</a> The grass is always greener <img src='http://stephentall.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://twitter.com/eleanorlondon/statuses/163565501501554688" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to eleanorlondon</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163565724500107264" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>I just bought: &#039;After The Cold War: The Collapse Of Communism And Its Impact On Europe&#039; by History Today via @<a href="http://twitter.com/KindleUK" class="aktt_username">KindleUK</a> <a href="http://t.co/9mB1aSp6" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/9mB1aSp6</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163566439977074688" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Excellent post by @<a href="http://twitter.com/bedfordvann" class="aktt_username">bedfordvann</a> RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/libdig" class="aktt_username">libdig</a> Question: Big or small government? Answer: effective | Henry Vann <a href="http://t.co/npzDIgw1" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/npzDIgw1</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163572990682988544" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>2 of the cats enjoy some mutual licking &#039;n loving <a href="http://t.co/QXFQ97Q7" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/QXFQ97Q7</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163591551912648704" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Go Nads! (To clarify, I&#039;m referring to an absolutely amazing game of tennis rather than the MP for Mid-Beds.) <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163613529583259648" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Just finished drafting the next @<a href="http://twitter.com/libdemvoice" class="aktt_username">libdemvoice</a> members&#039; survey &#8211; lots of tantalising questions on taxes, the NHS, benefits cap etc. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163625301857943553" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Djokovic is phenomenal. Shame for Nadal tho. Amazing final. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163632748693700608" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Radio 4&#039;s Bleak Expectations is funny. It would be even more so if the studio audience thought it a little less so <a href="http://t.co/9qlGfHvA" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/9qlGfHvA</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163697362882142208" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Ah, the joy of roasting beef while listening to iPlayer » Classic Serial, The Spy, Ep 1 <a href="http://t.co/SNzMH6r3" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/SNzMH6r3</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163713234828931072" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/tonybrett" class="aktt_username">tonybrett</a> @DuwayneBrooks But if that&#039;s the contract he &amp; the Lab govt signed then&#8230; <a href="http://twitter.com/tonybrett/statuses/163697474765209600" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to tonybrett</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163743252053368832" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/DavidMills73" class="aktt_username">DavidMills73</a> @JohnRentoul And you really think Cam wd lose a vote on EU powers? Oh &amp; btw Tories have won majority by now at snap gen electn <a href="http://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/statuses/163743743072153600" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to JohnRentoul</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163744869460869122" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/tonybrett" class="aktt_username">tonybrett</a> Isn&#039;t that why he&#039;s entitled to it? Haven&#039;t read the contact, I&#039;ll confess! <a href="http://twitter.com/tonybrett/statuses/163743732229873666" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to tonybrett</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163745411964731392" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Charity wd have been worthier recipient than Treasury » RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/Peston" class="aktt_username">Peston</a> Stephen Hester. RBS chief executive, will not take his bonus, I am told. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163746558419017728" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/DavidMills73" class="aktt_username">DavidMills73</a> @johnrentoul Yes, that&#039;s exactly right, exactly what&#039;s happening. As every Tory MP will tell you. <a href="http://twitter.com/DavidMills73/statuses/163745854287659008" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to DavidMills73</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163747287372271616" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/CllrIainRoberts" class="aktt_username">CllrIainRoberts</a> Have you tried table 7 here: <a href="http://t.co/a5hZn5AJ" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/a5hZn5AJ</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/CllrIainRoberts/statuses/163946606650073088" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to CllrIainRoberts</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163955690153574400" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>LibDemVoice on 2012&#039;s University applicn figures <a href="http://t.co/ID9l4A4i" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/ID9l4A4i</a> with contribns from @<a href="http://twitter.com/markpack" class="aktt_username">markpack</a> and, erm, me. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/163994232732921856" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/AllisterHeath" class="aktt_username">AllisterHeath</a> @TimMontgomerie @<a href="http://twitter.com/tombradby" class="aktt_username">tombradby</a>  Good piece tho lets media &amp; public off the hook re *their/our* inconsistency! <a href="http://twitter.com/AllisterHeath/statuses/164020592985636864" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to AllisterHeath</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164022706247966720" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>A fair-minded analysis » RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/TelegraphBlogs" class="aktt_username">TelegraphBlogs</a> Has Cameron capitulated on the EU veto? <a href="http://t.co/cvy6m453" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/cvy6m453</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164026132503597056" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/AndyCavster" class="aktt_username">AndyCavster</a> Hmm, &#039;spin&#039; &#8211; term freely used and abused to describe inconvenient facts. <a href="http://twitter.com/AndyCavster/statuses/164068045206200320" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to AndyCavster</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164068957890940928" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Cat in a box <a href="http://t.co/TbixddDV" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/TbixddDV</a> « a game for all the family. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164081600894746627" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/ThePlasticHippo" class="aktt_username">ThePlasticHippo</a> Can you identify the UCAS statistic you think is dubious, please. (cc @<a href="http://twitter.com/walsalllibdem" class="aktt_username">walsalllibdem</a>) <a href="http://twitter.com/ThePlasticHippo/statuses/164110769091395585" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to ThePlasticHippo</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164115037131255809" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>THIS » RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/nicholaswatt" class="aktt_username">nicholaswatt</a> PM: Ed Miliband miraculously forgotten he supported Hester&#039;s contract in govt &#8211; luxury of opp <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164116348782383104" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Fair point » MT @<a href="http://twitter.com/DAlexanderMP" class="aktt_username">DAlexanderMP</a> Unanswered questn after this EU Summit remains what Cam achieved by walking out of EU negotns last month? <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164117058185990145" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/alansm" class="aktt_username">alansm</a> @libdemvoice @<a href="http://twitter.com/markpack" class="aktt_username">markpack</a>  Good spot! Have changed. <a href="http://twitter.com/alansm/statuses/164125634010939392" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to alansm</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164241112494653441" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/ThePlasticHippo" class="aktt_username">ThePlasticHippo</a> You said the staistics (which are not mine) were &quot;dubious&quot;. I asked which ones. I&#039;m still waiting for answer. <a href="http://twitter.com/ThePlasticHippo/statuses/164119434707992576" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to ThePlasticHippo</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164267467332517889" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>From me last night &gt; The graph that shows more disadvantaged 18 year-olds applied to uni in 2012 than under Labour <a href="http://t.co/OvCPFbc4" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/OvCPFbc4</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164267917997916162" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/MaximManchester" class="aktt_username">MaximManchester</a> Truth is, I don&#039;t think we *know* yet. Agree we must wait to see detailed breakdown before jumping to any conclusions. <a href="http://twitter.com/MaximManchester/statuses/164276394761793536" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to MaximManchester</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164280807370919936" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Y&#039;know I can honestly say I don&#039;t care either way about Fred Goodwin&#039;s knighthood. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23utterlyindifferent" class="aktt_hashtag">utterlyindifferent</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164428471337095168" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/LutonLibDem" class="aktt_username">LutonLibDem</a> @libdemvoice Well, sort of &#8211; we do ask how badly Ed Miliband is doing. Or well. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23neutral" class="aktt_hashtag">neutral</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/LutonLibDem/statuses/164429851296677888" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to LutonLibDem</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164432726072623104" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/DistinctlyGreen" class="aktt_username">DistinctlyGreen</a> Because it&#039;s a strongly held indifference. <a href="http://twitter.com/DistinctlyGreen/statuses/164432582040236033" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to DistinctlyGreen</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164432868205019137" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Worth a read &gt; RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/libdig" class="aktt_username">libdig</a> The £10K tax threshold could be one of those policies that sticks by @<a href="http://twitter.com/markreckons" class="aktt_username">markreckons</a> here <a href="http://t.co/SexAjYYr" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/SexAjYYr</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164434703078785024" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Here&#039;s a headline I like which Tories won&#039;t &gt; &#039;Lib Dems praise David Cameron for EU U-turn&#039; <a href="http://t.co/u5Vx3EJa" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/u5Vx3EJa</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164462395903848450" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/orangebooker1" class="aktt_username">orangebooker1</a> But Cam did prev pledge FU cdn&#039;t use EU institutional structures like ECJ &#8211; has rowed-back from that. <a href="http://twitter.com/orangebooker1/statuses/164466888280260612" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to orangebooker1</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164467665153437698" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Not surprised, why invest in newsprint now? RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch" class="aktt_username">rupertmurdoch</a> F.T. Financial Times or Fawlty Towers?<br />
Sun on Sunday story today 100% wrong. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164470491749425152" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/orangebooker1" class="aktt_username">orangebooker1</a> Hmm, not much leverage really &#8211; that&#039;s why veto always more posture than reality. <a href="http://twitter.com/orangebooker1/statuses/164470026076827649" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to orangebooker1</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164471101030809600" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/mjturner1975" class="aktt_username">mjturner1975</a> is that what the FT story says? Assumed he was rubbishing very existence of Sun on Sunday. <a href="http://twitter.com/mjturner1975/statuses/164472227088187392" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to mjturner1975</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164479119617294337" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Love this » &quot;Sherlock (Take 1) &#8211; Scottish Falsetto Sock Puppet Theatre&quot; <a href="http://t.co/CN6cSm3m" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/CN6cSm3m</a> #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23youtoobling" class="aktt_hashtag">youtoobling</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164481058774061056" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Latest Lib Dem news round-up from @<a href="http://twitter.com/markpack" class="aktt_username">markpack</a> &gt; Tax cuts for millions or for millionaires? (Newsletter #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%2316" class="aktt_hashtag">16</a>  &#8211; <a href="http://t.co/K4ZC1G4X" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/K4ZC1G4X</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164637256924143616" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/markpack" class="aktt_username">markpack</a> Play your cards right, you could land yourself a job with the Lib Dems. <a href="http://twitter.com/markpack/statuses/164642797696192512" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to markpack</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164645098511007745" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Pack &amp; Tall Debate… Tuition fees: what should Lib Dem party policy now be? <a href="http://t.co/KnldHZB5" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/KnldHZB5</a> via @<a href="http://twitter.com/libdemvoice" class="aktt_username">libdemvoice</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164710163935281152" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Interesting idea (cf dereg to switch banks) tho many difficulties &gt; &#039;Give students the right to switch university&#039; <a href="http://t.co/ZS8jKG2F" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/ZS8jKG2F</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164715298665148416" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>So middle-class humanities graduate attacks working-class school drop-out, accuses him of snobbery. Irony, much? <a href="http://t.co/8th67Lco" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/8th67Lco</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164750892170625024" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/libdig" class="aktt_username">libdig</a> If tuition fees work but keep us out of govt for 80 yrs is that a price worth paying? <a href="http://t.co/V9tQOldF" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/V9tQOldF</a> asks @<a href="http://twitter.com/richardmorrisuk" class="aktt_username">richardmorrisuk</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164757951737888769" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Odd experience of leaving London at 10pm knowing I&#039;ll be heading back at 6am. Gawd bless the commuting life. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164832149516722176" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>On the plus side, enjoyed an evening of realising I have the coolest fundraising job going. Yay <img src='http://stephentall.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164832676103196672" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Sunrise over South London (from Millbank Tower) <a href="http://t.co/x7iBUTVZ" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/x7iBUTVZ</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164977683833438208" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/eleanorlondon" class="aktt_username">eleanorlondon</a> Yep &#8211; even better: useful! <a href="http://twitter.com/eleanorlondon/statuses/164979857892184064" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to eleanorlondon</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/164980538166362112" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Hmm, &#039;users&#039; (not me) or &#039;people registered&#039; (me)? RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/CatTurner" class="aktt_username">CatTurner</a> Google+ hits 100-million users (apparently) <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165004941092597760" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>I quite like Grauniad readers as individuals &#8211; but en masse?! <a href="http://t.co/vsroP3Fs" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/vsroP3Fs</a> *shudders* #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sanctimonyoverload" class="aktt_hashtag">sanctimonyoverload</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165006460839936000" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>At the RSA&#039;s &#039;The end of satisfactory schools&#039;, with Michael Wilshaw (new chief inspector) #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165055979669553152" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: standards have improved but third of primary pupils leave with inadeq English, Maths. Higher for disadv pupils. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165057908692889600" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw defines &#039;coasting&#039; schools as those with 2 consecutive &#039;satisfactory&#039; Ofsted inspections. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165058349161910274" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: we know what makes good schools &#8211; high expectations. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165059356319158272" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: Ofsted will define how &#039;satisfactory&#039; schools need to improve; more regular inspections (18 months). #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165059870314344449" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: performance management key to schools improvement, incl differential pay. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165060316164665345" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/alixmortimer" class="aktt_username">alixmortimer</a> think he&#039;s more keen on the difficult teachers moving out! <a href="http://twitter.com/alixmortimer/statuses/165060123381870592" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to alixmortimer</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165060737901932544" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Becky Francis responding to Michael Wilshaw: schools need support as well as challenge. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165061308293713921" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/alixmortimer" class="aktt_username">alixmortimer</a> ah, interesting. <a href="http://twitter.com/alixmortimer/statuses/165060924431020032" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to alixmortimer</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165061533527851009" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: single most important job for a headteacher &#8211; monitoring quality of teaching. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165062126870872066" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: &#039;satisfactory&#039; schools to be re-labelled &#039;requiring improvement&#039;, 1st page detailing trajectory &amp; what has to be done. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165063318481027072" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Becky Francis: concern there will be &#039;spirals of decline&#039; if improving schools labelled as &#039;semi-failing&#039;. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165063956149444608" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: 93% of teachers pass pay threshold yet Ofsted finds 40% of lessons less than good &#8211; &quot;What&#039;s going on?&quot; #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165068108493631489" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: Drivers of schools improvements since 90s &#8211; publicatn of results, testing &amp; league tables. Competition stirs things up #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165068756299677696" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Wilshaw: optimistic for future of teaching because new cohorts more impressive than in past. #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23rsaschools" class="aktt_hashtag">rsaschools</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165071726001143817" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/BBC_Analysis" class="aktt_username">BBC_Analysis</a> Link to transcript of schools programme is broken &#8211; any chance it cd be repaired, wd like to read it. Thx. <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165084767224737792" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/LonWon" class="aktt_username">LonWon</a> Hmm, have heard the stat but want to know more about assumptions behind it. Lots of contrary evid that schools do have big effect. <a href="http://twitter.com/LonWon/statuses/165072728557228032" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to LonWon</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165085127410597888" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Not smaller class sizes or teaching assistants &gt;&gt; &#039;What really improves children&#039;s learning?&#039; <a href="http://t.co/dDGlfbe6" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/dDGlfbe6</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165091009183756288" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius" class="aktt_username">Dafidius</a> *Lots* of data analysis in this case. (Declaration: the authors Sutton Trust are colleagues.) <a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius/statuses/165092051950645249" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to Dafidius</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165093286132981761" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius" class="aktt_username">Dafidius</a> Not obvious at all: all depends *how* they&#039;re applied. And effect sizes can be small cf different (sometimes cheaper) methods. <a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius/statuses/165092253038161920" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to Dafidius</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165093557454123008" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius" class="aktt_username">Dafidius</a> Eg, if inexperienced teaching assts dedicated to poor-performing kids can actually hinder attainment-raising. <a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius/statuses/165092253038161920" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to Dafidius</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165093904620847104" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius" class="aktt_username">Dafidius</a> And it cd well be your experience is right in yr specific circs &#8211; but too often it&#039;s believed there&#039;s direct cause &amp; effect&#8230; <a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius/statuses/165096137324367873" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to Dafidius</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165096649239183362" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius" class="aktt_username">Dafidius</a> but in reality it&#039;s indirect (eg, smaller class sizes help make effective feedback easier to implement but not suff in own right) <a href="http://twitter.com/Dafidius/statuses/165096137324367873" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to Dafidius</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165097071827894272" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Started the day with a sunrise, ending it with a sunset (across Hyde Park from the @<a href="http://twitter.com/X90coach" class="aktt_username">X90coach</a>) <a href="http://t.co/tI7MIs5C" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/tI7MIs5C</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165111579174641665" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Congrats @<a href="http://twitter.com/nickblinco" class="aktt_username">nickblinco</a> » HEFCE News &#039;Voluntary giving to HE: success and challenges for the next decade&#039; <a href="http://t.co/HB5ajEIj" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/HB5ajEIj</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165118071101595648" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>THIS»RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/boydhilton" class="aktt_username">boydhilton</a> Forget The Wire, Sopranos, West Wing. TV&#039;s best ever drama series finally repeated 2nite BBC4 10pm #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23TheSingingDetective" class="aktt_hashtag">TheSingingDetective</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165119688160980993" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Excellent debunking » The IFS’s verdict on Labour’s deficit argument is in – and it ain’t pretty <a href="http://t.co/rKNwaryp" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/rKNwaryp</a> via @<a href="http://twitter.com/libdemvoice" class="aktt_username">libdemvoice</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165125108464222209" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Post-Brechtian?! Gotta love academics » RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/lordbonkers" class="aktt_username">lordbonkers</a> The Singing Detective 25 years on <a href="http://t.co/D5vMmqnc" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/D5vMmqnc</a> #<a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23bbc4" class="aktt_hashtag">bbc4</a> at 10pm tonight <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165141869230166017" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>Great interview » RT @<a href="http://twitter.com/paulwaugh" class="aktt_username">paulwaugh</a> Clegg gives strongest hint yet that David Laws will be back (prob in Cab Office role). <a href="http://t.co/2CJq9XNU" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/2CJq9XNU</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165181164422828032" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/michaelsavage" class="aktt_username">michaelsavage</a> @paulwaugh But will Laws, like Mandy, have a leather portfolio marked &#039;Minister w&#039;out Portfolio&#039;? <a href="http://twitter.com/michaelsavage/statuses/165177119238930432" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to michaelsavage</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165181807816474625" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/JohnRentoul" class="aktt_username">JohnRentoul</a> But media would have ignored it anyway. And Commons not Clegg&#039;s preferred arena (best on TV &amp; live Q&amp;As, worst on radio). <a href="http://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/statuses/165183732632924160" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to JohnRentoul</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165184837244821504" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/hopisen" class="aktt_username">hopisen</a> Toynbee = Laski?? Think you&#039;re over-compensating. <a href="http://twitter.com/hopisen/statuses/165187783940509697" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to hopisen</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165189945227620353" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
<li>@<a href="http://twitter.com/hopisen" class="aktt_username">hopisen</a> *red faced* I occasionally forget some of my lefty friends do do irony <img src='http://stephentall.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://twitter.com/hopisen/statuses/165193687683432448" class="aktt_tweet_reply">in reply to hopisen</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/stephentall/statuses/165197105177182211" class="aktt_tweet_time">#</a></li>
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		<title>Tuition fees: three quick reflections on this week&#8217;s debate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve blogged a few times this week about the post-£9k tuition fees university application figures &#8212; here are a further three quick thoughts: Mature students Largely missing from the media&#8217;s coverage of the headline-grabbing drop in overall applications, is the stark gap between applications from teenagers, broadly flat, and the plummet among mature students (those [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>I&#8217;ve blogged a few times this week about the post-£9k tuition fees university application figures &#8212; here are a further three quick thoughts:</strong></p>
<h3>Mature students </h3>
<p>Largely missing from the media&#8217;s coverage of the headline-grabbing drop in overall applications, is the stark gap between applications from teenagers, broadly flat, and the plummet among mature students (those aged 19+). This shouldn&#8217;t suprise us: similar drops occurred when Labour itnroduced fees in &#8217;98 and tripled them in &#8217;03. But we need to understand better what lies behind the figures. Are fees deterring those who missed out on university first time and now feel they can&#8217;t afford to try and better themselves when they have other financial responsiblities (kids, mortgage, etc)? (There&#8217;s a case study <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/31/mature-students-casualty-tuition-fees">here in the Guardian</a>.) Or is it mainly affecting those who want to study for second degrees in order to re-train for a new profession? </p>
<p>The former group worries me more. If this year&#8217;s drop were to be the start of a trend (which hasn&#8217;t been the case after previous price rises) then it will likely entrench social immobility. However, in both categories I think we need to think more deeply about the length and style of the type of education needed. How many of these mature students actually need (or even want) a full three-year undergraduate course delivered on campus? Are there other ways in which such a course can be delivered more efficiently without compromising on quality?</p>
<h3>We don&#8217;t know enough yet</h3>
<p>Understandably there has been relief among Lib Dems that this week&#8217;s figures are better than feared: the predicted slump in applications from school-leavers did not become a self-fulfilling prophesy (as, I&#8217;m afraid to say, I think a number on the left half-hoped they would). But there has been, perhaps, <em>too much</em> relief. And yes I plead guilty, m&#8217;Lud. First, these figures are only one year&#8217;s. We need to see longer-term trends to know what impact if any this move towards market-fees is having. Secondly, though it appears according to Ucas&#8217;s own figures that young people from disadvantaged areas are not being disproportionately affected, we need to drill down further into these figures. There can be great socio-economic disparity within areas (think of the London boroughs), so the analysis of who <em>potentially </em>may be deterred needs to be much more granular. I&#8217;m sure my colleagues at The Sutton Trust will be doing that job through the indpeendent commission they&#8217;ve established.</p>
<h3>Lib Dem HE policy needs to be informed by evidence</h3>
<p>&#8216;Evidence-based policy&#8217; is a discipline most Lib Dems sign up to in theory, less so in practice. If (and I stress the &#8216;if&#8217;) we find that fees have no significant impact on the likelihood of poorer young people applying to university it would be illogical to maintain our opposition. So what comes next? Well, chances are that some form of compromise will be reached (politics being what it is), and in return for scrapping the party&#8217;s &#8216;scrap fees&#8217; policy, Lib Dem conference delegates will insist on a variety of well-meaning spendign commitments intended to address perceived disadvantage for low-income applicants. Fine, in principle, but let&#8217;s actually see what will make a difference. <a href="http://centreforumblog.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/its-official-waivers-and-bursaries-dont-attract-students-tim-leunig/">Centre Forum&#8217;s Tim Leunig has already made the point here</a> that fee waivers and bursaries appear to have little effect on influencing poorer applicants&#8217; choices of university, compared to (for instance) their view of the quality of the university or course they&#8217;re applying to. If we really want to help those kids we need to be clear about what will be effective, what will work, rather than simply chuck some cash at the problem to make ourselves feel better.</p>
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		<title>Dr Pack &amp; Mr Tall Debate&#8230; Tuition fees: what should Lib Dem party policy now be?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over at LibDemVoice, Mark Pack and I debate how Lib Dem party higher education policy can move forward now £9k tuition fees are a reality. You can find the original piece, with comments thread, here. Below is the blatantly copy &#8216;n pasted version&#8230; In the week of the publication of university application figures, LibDemVoice co-editors [...]]]></description>
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<p>Over at LibDemVoice, Mark Pack and I debate how Lib Dem party higher education policy can move forward now £9k tuition fees are a reality. <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/pack-tall-debate-tuition-fees-lib-dem-party-policy-26903.html">You can find the original piece, with comments thread, here</a>. Below is the blatantly copy &#8216;n pasted version&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In the week of the publication of university application figures, LibDemVoice co-editors Mark Pack and Stephen Tall debate what it means for the Lib Dems&#8217; future policy&#8230;</em></p>
<p><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-26904" title="Stephen Tall - looking very very serious" src="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ST_-_serious-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /><strong>Stephen Tall:</strong> The publication of the <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/understanding-the-university-application-figures-26883.html">University application figures for 2012</a> &#8212; the first year of the new £9k maximum fees regime &#8212; has something for everyone. Those who have always claimed the prospect of huge debt would deter potential students can point to the headline 8.7% decline in applications. Those who say the new fees repayments system is the best affordable deal can highlight that this year marks the second highest ever number of applications from teenagers, <a href="http://stephentall.org/2012/01/30/university-applications-poorest-young-people/">including for those from disadvantaged areas</a>. Whichever side you take, these are in any case just one year&#8217;s figures: this debate will continue to rage.</p>
<p>Another debate which will rage is likely to be this: what should the Lib Dem policy on tuition fees now be? Officially, party policy remains unchanged from the 2010 manifesto: the Lib Dems are committed to abolishing them. However, we all know what happened after the general election: the biting reality of Coalition politics triggered an infamous U-turn. Can the party really enter the 2015 general election with the same policy that we reneged on in this parliament? And if not how should Lib Dem policy start adapting to the changed reality of the new fees policy?</p>
<p><strong><img class="alignright  wp-image-26087" title="Dr Mark Pack" src="http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Mark-Pack.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="137" />Mark Pack:</strong> Both the economics and the politics of promising to abolishing tuition fees in the 2015 manifesto look pretty implausible to me. Even if we thought it was politically sensible to say &#8220;we didn&#8217;t do it last time, but we really mean it this time&#8221;, given the likely state of the nation&#8217;s finances in 2015 there is unlikely to be much money to spare for extra spending on policy priorities and there&#8217;s going to be a long list of other worthy causes to lay claim to what cash there is.</p>
<p>What might well be plausible on both fronts is a limited expansion of bursaries and the like so that tuition fees and maintenance costs are covered for a larger number of those from the most disadvantaged backgrounds. It would fit well with Nick Clegg&#8217;s passion for social mobility and the party&#8217;s wide message about building a fairer society.</p>
<p><strong>Stephen Tall:</strong> I agree with you on both the economic and political implausibility of sticking to a &#8216;scrap fees&#8217; policy which almost half the party&#8217;s MPs voted against. Yet I also find it implausible that the Lib Dem conference-voting members will find it in themselves to jettison a policy to which the party has been so wedded. I guess a compromise might be accommodated which sidelines the abolition of fees as a long-term aspiration impossible in present circumstances &#8212; in which case it risks becoming our Clause IV, a not-to-be-implemented policy which members cling to out of nostalgia but which simply reminds the public of a distinctly unglorious moment in our party&#8217;s history.</p>
<p>On your point about the party developing a more pragmatic policy of targeted assistance to help those groups most likely to be put off by fees, this seems to me essential. However, we need to ensure our thinking is informed by evidence of what actually works. As it happens in the example you cite, bursaries, the evidence so far indicates such assistance doesn&#8217;t actually help encourage the poorest to apply to university (though it may help in lowering drop-out rates). Too much educational policy in this country is based on personal hunches of what should work, and not enough on the reality of what will help. If the party wants to be taken seriously on access to higher education, it needs to start doing some proper policy heavy-lifting. And soon.</p>
<p><strong>Mark Pack</strong>: The big untouched issue in higher education is the reliance on lectures &#8211; and on lecturers who aren&#8217;t trained in lecturing to boot. I say this as a former sometime university lecturer&#8230; We say the education is vital and yet let people get up in front of students and lecture with remarkably little in the way of training in many cases. Reputations and ratings do help push universities into doing rather more than they used to in order to ensure that lecturers do a good job, but even whey they do the central tool &#8211; the lecture &#8211; is still predominantly used in a very old fashioned way.</p>
<p>With the widespread availability of video on demand over the internet letting students watch the world&#8217;s best lecturers from previous decades at the click of a mouse, the idea that there should be widespread use of an inexperienced, under-trained person who stands up and talks for 55 minutes is very much in need of questioning.</p></blockquote>
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