Teather: “Benefit cap is immoral and divisive”

by Stephen Tall on November 18, 2012

Lib Dem MP for Brent Central Sarah Teather makes the front page of The Observer today for a powerful interview slamming the Government’s plans to bring in a benefit cap. I’m quoting extensively from it, below, but it’s well worth reading the whole piece here.

This is clearly an issue that touches Sarah deeply, not least because of the number of her constituents she knows will be deeply affected by the changes. What impresses me most, though, is the way she acknowledges the way the arguments are being framed by the Tories and by the media — and passively accepted by Labour — while sticking up for the rights of children not to end up the victims and for society not to become further fractured.

As we sit down to talk, it is clear that something specific is on Teather’s mind. … It is the issue that disquieted her most during her time in government – the £500-a-week cap on welfare that ministers will place on families from April next year that is eating away at her. When she was in government Teather kept fairly quiet about the issue – though she refused to vote for it in parliament. Now, free of collective responsibility, she feels it is her duty to speak out. …

… she also makes no bones about the fact that, for her, the cuts and caps already agreed by the coalition are unacceptable and wrong. Brent, she points out, is an area with high rents where many people are already living in appallingly crowded conditions. She is in favour of that part of government policy which encourages people off benefits into work but not when it seeks to erode sympathy and support for the poor.

“Having an incentive in the benefits system to encourage people to work is a good thing,” she says. “It is a good thing because it encourages people to participate in society. But having a system which is so punitive in its regime that it effectively takes people entirely outside society, so they have no chance of participating, crosses a moral line for me.”

The local council estimates that more than 2,000 people in Brent will end up losing at least £50 a week when the cap comes in. At the top end, 84 families will lose about £1,000 a week. Many will be driven out of the area, including thousands of children.

She accuses parts of government and the press of a deliberate campaign to “demonise” those on benefits and of failing to understand that those in need of state help are just as human as they are. With vivid outrage she describes the language and caricatures that have been peddled.

“Whenever there is any hint of opposition they wheel out a caricature of a family, usually a very large family, probably black, most likely recent immigrants, without much English, lots of children, apparently chaotic, living in a desirable neighbourhood that middle-class people would like to occupy. That is the caricature and of course it is a partial spinning of the truth and it allows the demonisation to take place.

“I would really urge particularly Conservative colleagues but people in all parties to be careful. I don’t think we can afford to preside over a society where there is a gradual eroding of sympathy for people at the bottom end of the income spectrum and a rapid erosion of sympathy for people on benefits.”

She returns to the theme of morality and politics, saying: “I think deliberately to stoke up envy and division between people in order to gain popularity at the expense of children’s lives is immoral. It has no good intent.

“There are all sorts of things you have to do when times are tight that have negative consequences but you do them for good purposes. To do something for negative purposes that also has negative consequences – that is immoral.” …

“The policy was essentially conceived as a political device. It is simply not in the same league as other policies that are challenging in their consequences but done for a good purpose. I don’t think it was even remotely conceived as a financial cost-cutting device. I think it was conceived as a political device to demonstrate whose side you are on.”

… She talks of a “reverse Jarrow March” occurring in April next year when the cap comes in, as “many thousands of people leave London” adding: “My fear is that a lot of people will effectively just disappear from the area in which they were living. I think some very horrible things are going to happen.”

Teather is aware that she will be attacked for her intervention both by the rightwing press and some colleagues at Westminster, where even Labour is wary of being seen to criticise welfare cuts. She is careful to praise Nick Clegg for having fought valiantly to limit the effect of reductions.

But her most acute concern is for the many thousands of young people involved. She says: “Obviously not all of those children will be made homeless and it is difficult to tell how many will be, but a substantial number will be required to move and that will have a destructive effect on their education. It will remove them from their friends. It will have a destructive impact on the support networks that their families have.” …

Middle-class people would only notice the effect when their children lose their friends. She says: “When the child in the nice middle-class family comes home and says ‘my friend has just disappeared’, I think then it might hit home and they might realise a set of children have disappeared from the class – kids who last week came to Johnny’s birthday party. Then it will start to be real. We are in a vacuum phase where I am frankly terrified about what is going to happen.”

At times Teather is close to tears as she unburdens herself. She says the day she deliberately failed to vote for the government was “extremely difficult”. But then as now – with her decision to speak out – it was a moral judgment she felt she had to make. She says: “Driving a sledgehammer through a fault line that already exists between the working poor and the non-working poor – setting up that hostility – is the thing that I find most difficult morally.”

* Stephen Tall is Co-Editor of Liberal Democrat Voice, a Research Associate for the liberal think-tank CentreForum, and also writes at his own site, The Collected Stephen Tall.


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by Stephen Tall on November 18, 2012 at 5:50 pm. Reply #

Housing benefit is one of the factors pushing up rents in London. when you analyse it for what it is, a subsidy to private landlords to overcharge poor people, it is completely indefensible in its uncapped form. A benefit cap is morally and practically the right policy, and it is also hugely popular amongst the vast majority of voters.

by Jonathan Price on November 18, 2012 at 8:26 pm. Reply #

House prices driven by state subsidies – who designed this system – the land-owners?

by Graham Neale on November 18, 2012 at 11:07 pm. Reply #

No, New Labour actually, but it might as well have been the landlords.

by Jonathan Price on November 20, 2012 at 10:08 pm. Reply #

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