Greater Manchester Lib Dem PPC defects to Labour

by Stephen Tall on June 29, 2009

The Manchester Evening News has the story:

A Liberal Democrat candidate for the next General Election has defected to Labour. Paul Moss had already been selected as candidate for Denton and Reddish but has now quit the party.

Mr Moss said: “Nationally the Liberal Democrats are a complete joke. And I have seen how the Lib Dems in Stockport have completely ignored local people and have helped to seriously damage communities like Reddish through their uncaring policies.”

A Liberal Democrat spokesman said: “It’s a shame he feels this way. He certainly didn’t express these views when he was trying to become our candidate for the council by-election in Stockport this month. It seems a bizarre decision to join the directionless Labour Party, which is crumbling locally and nationally.”

I don’t think you have to read between too many lines to infer that this is more about personalities than policies.

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So, according to the many, many people that appear to hate Stockport Council and have somehow stumbled onto Lib Dem Voice (which ain’t exactly a pillar of the internet), the Council is involved in wilfully poisoning working-class children and pressuring vulnerable women into suicide. I don’t know how well or badly the council’s run in Stockport, but I wouldn’t believe that of my worst enemies.

by Foregone Conclusion on July 3, 2009 at 4:14 pm. Reply #

As they have made a net gain of 1 seat in the last three sets of elections (2006-8) they must be very good at covering it up. It just shows how effective the help Common Purpose and Bilderberg give is in practice.

Unless your suggesting that not everything I read on the internet is true.

by Hywel on July 3, 2009 at 5:09 pm. Reply #


If you send me your email address I can send you documentary evidence regarding the school on the toxic waste dump. If you want to speak to the town hall protester, I will arrange that too. If you want to speak to the parents of severely disabled children who have been bullied and defamed, I can arrange that too. As I mentioned at the outset, I have documentary evidence or witnesses for all I have said. I don’t have evidence regarding the lady who jumped off the Humber Bridge with her 9-year-old autistic son, but I am trying my utmost to get it, despite all attempts to stop me.

So, which bits of what I have said don’t you believe and we can go through it with a fine tooth comb explaining all that has gone on with the written evidence.

by Sheila Oliver on July 3, 2009 at 5:36 pm. Reply #

Stockport’s Lib Dem 4* Council has adopted 0845 Call centres for most of it’s services. You just cannot get hold of anyone. Nobody signs letters personally. It is always “Council Tax team” etc. They should take a leaf out of this womans book and stop robbing the residents. Oh, and just try logging a complaint. That is a story in itself.

Euro-MP’s Campaign Against Premium Phone Rip-Off

11.45.06pm BST (GMT +0100) Mon 13th Aug 2007
Liz Lynne MEP

West Midlands MEP Liz Lynne has again spoken out against commercial phone numbers such as 0845 and 0870 which are lucrative for businesses but costing their customers a packet.

West Midlands MEP Liz Lynne has again spoken out against commercial phone numbers such as 0845 and 0870 which are lucrative for businesses but costing their customers a packet.

Having taken up the issue on behalf of constituents in the past, and fallen foul of the numbers herself, Liz has had enough and is launching a campaign against their ongoing high prices and lack of transparency regarding pricing.

Liz said: “The biggest insult for customers is that so many of these numbers are helplines for products they have already paid for, such as BT Broadband Internet, that customers haven’t managed to get working properly.”

“These numbers ought to be free of charge, yet many businesses continue to prey on the fact that most people think these numbers all cost the same as a regular call or are free.”

“Now that excessive mobile roaming charges have been addressed, we must tackle premium commercial numbers. A BT peak-time national call typically costs 3p per minute but 0845 numbers can cost up to 5p and 0870 up to 10p. Businesses often take a cut of this extra cost and are reluctant to give customers non-premium alternatives.”

by Chill Out on July 3, 2009 at 6:41 pm. Reply #

I sent in an official complaint about anomalies regarding £5.6 million last July to the Assistant Chief Exec (Monitoring Officer). When by November I had heard nothing I sent a registered post reminder to the Council Solicitor, who ignored it. I asked and asked at council meetings since and it has been completely ignored.

If anyone from the LibDems wants to email me, I am happy to forward evidence of what has gone on in Stockport.

I did come across this site by accident whilst looking for details of the LibDem candidate in North Reddish.

by Sheila Oliver on July 3, 2009 at 6:50 pm. Reply #

I think you should see:
for the latest Lib Dem defection!

What IS going on in Denton and Reddish?

by Another defection on July 6, 2009 at 6:11 pm. Reply #


I wasn’t lying, as people on your website thought. There are massive problems and people here are treated like scum unless they live in LibDem areas like Hazel Grove, Cheadle and Marple.

I have evidence and I can put you in touch with loads of really fed up residents. We even face arrest on trumped up charges for questioning what is being done here.

by Sheila Oliver on July 6, 2009 at 7:15 pm. Reply #

You have removed the comment about the further defection. Why?

by Sheila Oliver on July 6, 2009 at 8:07 pm. Reply #

Leading Denton and Reddish Lib Dem joins Labour

Another top local Liberal Democrat, Karen Wright, has formally joined the Denton and Reddish Constituency Labour Party today.

Karen, who represented the Audenshaw Ward on Tameside Council for over a decade has now chosen to become Labour’s newest recruit. As well as having been the Lib Dem Leader on Tameside Council, she has also held several senior posts in the Liberal Democrats, including Constituency Party Chair and Parliamentary Agent for Denton and Reddish.

She is now the second high profile politician in a week to leave the failing Denton and Reddish Liberal Democrat party. First it was Paul Moss – their prospective parliamentary candidate – who tore up his Lib Dem membership, and now Karen Wright has chosen to do the same!
Karen Wright said: “I have been thinking about joining the Labour Party in Denton and Reddish for quite a while. I know how hard they work in our communities throughout Tameside and Stockport.”

“The timing of my move was always going to be difficult. Whilst I’ve always believed in positive campaigning and have no interest in slating my old party, it has become obvious to me that the Lib Dems in Denton and Reddish have become disorganised and are now showing little sign of understanding what local people need.”

“The choice in Reddish North is simple; Labour’s David Wilson, or a Tory who would support savage public service cuts and a Lib Dem standing on a record of ignoring the will of the community. The other parties will use this election to peddle their programme of isolationism, extremism, hate and division.”

by Chill Out on July 6, 2009 at 10:03 pm. Reply #

You seem to want to know what is going wrong with the LibDems at Stockport, although not one of you contacted me for any evidence. Our town hall protester got a CRASBO (a criminal asbo)for sneezing. The police were called over 70 times to him, he spent nights in a police cell, last time he had the charges dropped on the day of the court case, this time he was charged in the Stockport Council run magistrates’ court of assault with a sneeze with intent to inflict a council employee with a cold. Why did the Council not simply deal with his complaint over the preceding decade or the two years he spent on the town hall steps? Now he is banned from any council meeting or streets surrounding council buildings.

The LibDem Executive councillors condoned this bullying thuggery throughout.

by Sheila Oliver on July 11, 2009 at 6:45 am. Reply #


I can’t see the result of the North Reddish byelection posted on your website but I have to say – I told you so.

Kind regards

by Sheila Oliver on July 24, 2009 at 5:52 pm. Reply #

The people of Reddish have spoken in the By Election, Over 50% voted Labour in its fight for local amentities.The Lib Dems polled less than the Tories & UKIP finishing fourth .
I hope they listen and reverse the plans by Executive Councillor Hogg for closing the existing Library & selling the site off and engage with our new Councollor David Wilson to improve the library/baths & community centre site which was originally a gift from the people of Stockport to gain Reddish tax revenues in 1907.
Adswood library was closed . I will continue to fight to save Reddish Library . My children cannot go swimming locally . I am damned if we lose the library as well.

by Paul Moss on July 28, 2009 at 11:47 pm. Reply #


Email me – -and we can fight the dark forces of the LibDems together. I note LibDem voting Marple keeps its baths, library etc at all costs, although Councillor Bispham once told me they have deprivation in Marple Bridge too, as they no longer have a late night chemist. Bless!

Come and ask them a question about Reddish at Monday’s Executive meeting.

by Sheila Oliver on August 1, 2009 at 9:32 am. Reply #

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