Top of the Blogs: The Golden Ton (Nos. 61-80)

by Stephen Tall on August 12, 2008

‘Tis the season for lists… All this week we are publishing the top 100 posts by Lib Dem bloggers, in descending order of popularity, for the last year – August 2007 to July 2008, inclusive, according to click-throughs from the Aggregator.

(Profuse thanks to techno-wizard and stat-monkey Ryan Cullen, who runs the Aggregator, for compiling this table.)

In today’s second instalment we run through 61-80:

61. An odd sequence of events (Peter Black)
62. Updated: Which MPs were in the pub during the abortion vote? (Jo’s Jottings)
63. BBC Shamefully Undervalues Importance of MEPs! (Love and Liberty)
64. Nick Clegg – potentially a great leader of our party (Paul Walter)
65. The public’s comments on last night’s Question Time (Paul Walter)
66. Clegg on school vouchers – the evidence (Jo Hayes)
67. The Paddick Diary (Peter Black)
68. I have voted and not for the obvious choice (Colin Ross)
69. Newsnight leadership hustings: open thread (Lib Dem Voice)
70. Crewe & Nantwich – an utter disaster? (Fine Words Butter No Parsnips – now deleted)
71. Cobblers about the Crewe and Nantwich selection (Paul Walter)
72. London hustings: my verdict (A Posh-Sounding Northumbrian)
73. Huhne wipes the floor with Clegg on Newsnight (Paul Walter)
74. Calamity Clegg? (Liberal Polemic)
75. My 8 wishes for 2008 (Jo’s Jottings)
76. Live Blog – leadership announcement (Paul Walter)
77. A Vote For Nick (featuring Nick’s ‘EXCLUSIVE’ answer t… (Love and Liberty)
78. Incumbents score 100n euro selections (Duncan Borrowman)
79. If the Richmond Formula showed a 12% lead in an election, you’d be over the moon (Norfolk Blogger)
80. Late surge to Chris Huhne! (Paul Walter)

Top of the Blogs: The Golden Ton (Nos. 81-100)

Tomorrow: 41-60!

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I think your figures are wrong Stephen. If you may remember I emailed you asking for the pub article not to be in the golden dozen, and if I had known you would be running a poll such as this, logic would also have told you that I wouldn’t have wanted it published here either.

Glad to hear you take note of what bloggers say.

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 4:37 pm. Reply #

P.S. You’re nasty to get ahead and I don’t like you!

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 4:39 pm. Reply #

Flag this messageRe: Golden DozenWednesday, 28 May, 2008 8:27 PM
From: “Jo Anglezarke” Add sender to Contacts To: “Stephen Tall” Hi Stephen

Please kindly refrain from listing ‘MPs that were in the Pub during the abortion vote’ in the golden dozen this sunday. I’m geniunely sorry for all the upset this post has caused and don’t want to be seen to be rewarded for it.



by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 4:43 pm. Reply #

It’s ok, Jo, all the attention will soon be distracted by my “Dog of the Day” post coming in at Number 1.

by Julian H on August 12, 2008 at 4:53 pm. Reply #

“P.S. You’re nasty to get ahead and I don’t like you!”

Possibly one of the dumbest and misjudged things I’ve ever read in the comments here, and that’s including the Tory trolls.

by Anonymous on August 12, 2008 at 4:57 pm. Reply #

If you think acknowledging a polite request, then later in the year ignoring it isn’t dumb and misjudged then I agree with you…

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm. Reply #


Stephen is away at the moment. The consensus view at LDV Towers is that the link should remain up because:

1. The post is still on your blog, so it’s reasonable to link to it. Where people have deleted posts, Stephen hasn’t linked to a cached version. The posts have still, however, been included in the Golden Ton with a dead link – it is meant to be an accurate statistical download of what people were reading, after all. So this is in your hands, really.

2. I can understand why it would have been reasonable to take down a link in the immediate aftermath, when it was possibly sensistive and you were still upset about it, but it’s some time ago now. The post seems to me to stand perfectly well on its own – with apology attached and clearly marked.

by Alix Mortimer on August 12, 2008 at 6:16 pm. Reply #

Look, sorry, Stephen, perhaps I should have emailed you and been a little more discrete – but please if you can remove the posting from the list.

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 6:17 pm. Reply #

@ Why am I talking to an albeit more intelligent, but more noticeably a more female Stephen?

Why did the post appear in his name? And why, if you have collated from the golden dozen, is the post there anyway? It wasn’t ever in the golden dozen.

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 6:19 pm. Reply #

So Stephen will allow people to take the top links out of the golden dozen but not in this list which appears right before the awards, therefore embarrassing quite a few people?

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 6:22 pm. Reply #

The only reason ‘LDV Towers’ don’t want to take it down is because you’d have to re-work the entire article. Utter laziness. At least everyone reading this will know how Stephen has double standards, one for both his different polls, depending on when they are published!

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 6:25 pm. Reply #

Sorry if this states the blindingly obvious Jo but if publicising the post upsets you so much:

a) Why don’t you delete it your end; and
b) Why are you spending so much time and energy promoting it? I’d have never thought to click on it if it wasn’t for this thread.

by James Graham on August 12, 2008 at 6:46 pm. Reply #

Thanks for the click James – I have a sense of injustice and want to know why he didn’t let it into the golden dozen yet it’s in the golden ton…

I didn’t delete it my end as it had thoroughly upset so many people and I didn’t want to seem like a coward. However, I didn’t want to feature in a list…quite reasonable I feel,…

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 6:50 pm. Reply #

“I’d have never thought to click on it if it wasn’t for this thread.”

Love your blog too James!!

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 6:53 pm. Reply #

28 readers to my blog from this site today! I think that’s quite good going don’t you James?


by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 6:59 pm. Reply #

Controversy is clearly the way to hits – one of my most “successful” days was when I was CRAZY enough to let some people from other parties say what they thought.

Scandal, Harris, find a scandal.

by Julian H on August 12, 2008 at 7:02 pm. Reply #

‘I order you to falsify records on your site rather than me make a minor alteration to mine. And you smell, you horrid person!’

Ever considered a career at the UN, Jo?

Stephen, on the other hand, has never struck me as nasty in anything he’s ever written.

by Alex Wilcock on August 12, 2008 at 7:17 pm. Reply #

the important thing is not to draw attention to it and probably no-one will notice it (i think you’ve got away with it so far…)

by libdem troll on August 12, 2008 at 7:20 pm. Reply #

@ Alex – well I don’t think you’d exactly fit in at the UN either!

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 9:48 pm. Reply #

All very odd. However, to answer the question of ‘why is it in the top 100 if it didn’t make the Golden Dozen in the week it was published?’, it is entirely possible that it appeared in a week when lots of people were reading, i.e. it is easier to get into the top seven (remember, the other five are nominated for interest rather than readership figures) in a week when not much is happening.

Indeed, if your entry straddled two weeks of the Golden Dozen, it might have been just short in consecutive weeks.

Of course, I don’t know this for a fact, as I don’t have access to all of the data (and don’t want it either!).

Finally, I actually think that, in a contrary sort of way, this actually helps to promote more thought in terms of nominations for the awards to come. I have been reminded of some very good postings, and look forward to seeing what else appears in the coming days…

by Mark Valladares on August 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm. Reply #

Actually, too many actuallys… must concentrate…

by Mark Valladares on August 12, 2008 at 10:14 pm. Reply #

Yes Mark, I bow to your superior intellect, that’s what it was totally.

I stand corrected.

by Jo on August 12, 2008 at 10:24 pm. Reply #

I’m confused now – I thought the original point was that Stephen removed the post from the GD artificially – i.e. on pure figures it *was* in there, but he agreed to take it out after your request? I may have misunderstood this. Therefore, when we pull out the stats for the whole year, it will still be floating around in there somewhere unless someone artificially takes it out again, for which see my post above.

Still, Mark’s right in that the Golden Ton isn’t necessarily a compilation of all the Golden Dozens, although the correlation will be high. There’ll be slow-burners in the Ton which weren’t the top posts in their week, but which did get a lot of clicks over time, and vice versa the Ton won’t include some posts which got into the top seven in their week but weren’t much clicked after that.

by Alix Mortimer on August 12, 2008 at 10:57 pm. Reply #

I don’t know, you suggest that it isn’t a conspiracy theory, and you get attacked for it…

Fair enough, it’s a conspiracy, and Stephen Tall is the true LibDem Svengali. Alix and Ryan, you are faithful acolytes of the all powerful one and will doubtless be rewarded later for your wicked and licentious reasonableness.

I’ve locked and bolted all of the doors of my house, stocked up with enough food to last me and the cats for a month or so and I’m not coming out until I know that it’s safe, that the powers of good have triumphed over the forces of Lib Dem Voice, and that James Graham has become President of the People’s Democratic Republic of England…

by Mark Valladares on August 12, 2008 at 11:30 pm. Reply #

You forget Mr Valladares that Mr Tall and Mr Graham are both winners of the so-called Liberal Democrat Blog of the Year. This award is just a cover for their international conspiracy. Mr Graham is not on your side. He is part of the conspiracy. Beware!

And have you ever seen Mr Tall or Mr Graham in the same room as the Duke of Edinburgh? Suspicious!

by The Man on the Grassy Knoll on August 12, 2008 at 11:39 pm. Reply #

Ah no, my grass-loving friend, for I employ Herr Graham to progress my evil schemes through the medium of Unlock Democracy where I wield ultimate power as a substitute member of the Management Board.

Of course, I also own most of Oxfordshire, so Mr Tall is, in fact, my colonial administrator. On summer evenings, I like to sit in my favourite pub in Wantage with my cat, Cincinnati, plotting my inevitable seizure of ultimate global control over your sad, pathetic lives and listen to organ music.

Nya, ha, ha, ha, ha…

by Mark Valladares on August 12, 2008 at 11:48 pm. Reply #

You made your fatal mistake in listening to organ music rather than Elvis Costello. I, the kingmaker, will not be backing you for this reason, & your schemes are thereby doomed to failure. I mock you.

I shall see myself out…

by asquith on August 13, 2008 at 6:10 am. Reply #

@ Alix, there’s nothing now to be confused about, I came to the wrong conclusion and I now stand corrected.

@ Mark, I’ve admitted my error so you just sound like a sad middle-aged ****** who wants to hassle me a bit about questionning things too much…

by Jo on August 13, 2008 at 8:01 am. Reply #


I was, initially, simply trying to be helpful, as your question seemed not to have been answered. Your response seemed, to me at least, to be dripping with sarcasm.

So, instead of attacking you, I decided upon humour, albeit slightly mocking. It did distract attention from the earlier part of the thread…

Your response? Further abuse. You really do go out of your way to make friends, don’t you…

by Mark Valladares on August 13, 2008 at 11:13 am. Reply #

Answering some of the points.

All the stats are collected via MyBlogLog.

Each week Stephen (or this week myself) will look at the top 50 clicks. We then take the top 7 blog posts, plus the other 5 and this creates the Golden Dozen.

On the 1st August I then logged into the MyBlogLog stat system and asked it for the top 500 clicks for the last 12 months. I then spent over an hour filtering out the clicks that didn’t go to a blog post directly and provided Stephen with a list of the 100 most clicked on posts.

Stephen then wrote the articles for them last week and has them set up to appear throughout the week in stages.

As Mark Valladares pointed out, it could be possible that a post which was ranked 8th one week and never appeared in a Golden Dozen, could end up in the top 100 (or even top 10) if it was a busy blogging week, or if it was posted on a Saturday it will have been spread across two weeks of counting and might miss both dozens.

by Ryan Cullen on August 13, 2008 at 11:23 am. Reply #

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